tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1170345318491016282.post7944290559705976343..comments2023-10-27T07:54:12.473-05:00Comments on DisComforting Ignorance: Response to MrFreethinker #A-1: Jesus' ResurrectionDisComforting Ignorancehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04279112381253209661noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1170345318491016282.post-87734387244976054982008-10-07T23:14:00.000-05:002008-10-07T23:14:00.000-05:00Hey DI,Habermas seems to be pretty careful to desc...Hey DI,<BR/><BR/>Habermas seems to be pretty careful to describe his minimal facts as being accepted by "scholars" rather than being accepted by "historians." It is people who repeat his arguments that turn the theologians he surveyed into historians. As I result, I am pretty sure that all of his minimal facts are based on the sample that he describes in the linked article.<BR/><BR/>However, I haven't read everything that Habermas has written so I suppose it is possible that he wrote some article some where in which his sample was limited to historians. I would bet against it thoughVinnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08955726889682177434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1170345318491016282.post-68913369001710520302008-10-07T15:55:00.000-05:002008-10-07T15:55:00.000-05:00Hey Vinny,Thanks for the feedback. I see you've po...Hey Vinny,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the feedback. I see you've posted on Gary Habermas a few times. It seems you had the same suspicions I had from just an initial review of the claim.<BR/><BR/>I'm wondering, do you happen to know if the 98% of "scholars" polled are of the same sample of the 75% of scholars who accepted the empty tomb? I have it on my list of facts to verify as MrFreeThinker cited Habermas as the source for both of those statistics.DisComforting Ignorancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04279112381253209661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1170345318491016282.post-77767250960493985652008-10-06T08:33:00.000-05:002008-10-06T08:33:00.000-05:00Regarding the 75% of scholars who accept the empty...Regarding the 75% of scholars who accept the empty tomb, most of the scholars that Gary Habermas surveyed were theologians or New Testament scholars, not historians. Moreover, approximately three quarters of the publications he reviewed fell into the category he designated “the moderate conservative position.” <A HREF="http://www.garyhabermas.com/articles/J_Study_Historical_Jesus_3-2_2005/J_Study_Historical_Jesus_3-2_2005.htm" REL="nofollow">Resurrection Research from 1975 to the Present:<BR/>What are Critical Scholars Saying?</A> So in fact, it looks like this alleged “fact” is actually agreed on only by conservative Christian theologians.<BR/><BR/>Regarding enemy attestation, if I have independent evidence of enemy attestation, this might add to the weight of the evidence to establish that an event occurred. In this case, we have Matthew reporting the event and Matthew reporting the enemy attestation of the event. Matthew’s case does not become stronger when he claims that others agree with him. It only becomes stronger when those others say so for themselves.Vinnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08955726889682177434noreply@blogger.com